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Our final word on the “B” word …

Kyrie Irving wanted to play with Barnes, but he will now prepare to face him as a rival.  For Duke fans, it's time to move on and show love to the players that want to play in Durham.
Kyrie Irving wanted to play with Barnes, but he will now prepare to face him as a rival. For Duke fans, it's time to move on and show love to the players that want to play in Durham.

When I first started to write of the aftermath of Barnes recruitment, I realized that in order to get a better picture that it would take a little time. So, I let this sit on the cutting room floor for a few days.  Of course, members wanted answers right away and nobody could give them what few involved in the situation wanted to talk about.

As time has gone on and I have yet to release what we'll term BDN's final word on Barnes, I realized that despite all of my efforts there was no real way to make sense of the disappointment.  Still, I will give it a try in an effort to appease those with questions.

First off all, lets be real in that had Harrison Barnes chose Duke, we would have had no problem with his recruitment.  Many of you are seeking answers but nobody can give you a complete scenario as to how things went down.

I have been saying for a year now that [private] I do not like it when Duke is considered the leader for a recruit, especially early on.  Duke has missed on Barnes, Boynton and Monroe after being considered the leader and there are others as well.

I personally do not think prospects like being linked to a certain school for a long period of time, for all the questions and all the attacks surely come.  Yes, we are talking negative recruiting and there is a lot of that going on.  But that's a story for another day for it was far from the sole reason Duke lost Barnes to Carolina.

I say lost Barnes, for I really thought they had established themselves the leader and there was never any over the top bad vibes from Barnes throughout the process.  You can also make a case in that Roy Williams closed hard and seemingly made all the right moves.

Roy camped out in Iowa towards the end and he had his team working behind the scenes at breakneck speed in a calculated effort to get Barnes.  The official visit to UNC was a grand slam, but why?

Well, as it turns out Barnes mom, Shirley is a big UNC fan and she was completely blown away on the visit, meeting Michael Jordan and being schmoozed by players she grew up rooting for is tough to overcome  Nobody realized just how deep this went until it was too late to do anything about it.

Barnes is a mommas boy, so he would naturally be swayed by his mom and sister's emotion.  It is also known that the Barnes family felt more at home at UNC than they did Duke for whatever reason.

Yes, Barnes was urged to call certain ex Duke players and yes, kids on their team that were recruited by Duke [Leslie McDonald] and those who wanted to be for exposure [Kendall Marshall] played roles.

It's many kids dreams to take it down to the wire with the biggest names clamoring for them as they announce to a national audience.  Duke was not about to fall prey to Marshall whose Dad wanted DU to offer for they knew where he would end up all along.

Still, there is no secret that prospects seemingly have no problem with slipping a nod and wink to one coach while stringing along others, recruiting budgets and emotions be damned.

Barnes did string Duke along and he made them feel as if there was a legitimate shot right up until his announcement.  For Duke fans, it did seem like a slap in the face with Roy slipping in after Duke's in home and no sign of serious remorse for the jilted ones.

Once again, we all had to sit on pins and needles while Barnes gave what seemed like an acceptance speech at the Academy Awards before going over and pulling up Skype on his computer in a most clunky way.

When Roy's face popped up, the mystery was officially over but rest assured it had been over and this "different way of announcing," had been set up well before the day of the event.

But Duke has been here before.  Patrick Patterson strung Duke along yet in the end it was clear Duke was not in the top two.  Patterson's mom jumped to the mike and shouted, "We shocked the world, we shocked the world."

I suppose that is okay from the prospect's standpoint, but wasting the recruiting budgets of schools for your own needs is wrong in my book.

Yes, Mrs. Patterson and Patrick shocked the world, but why be so proud of that?  Both the Barnes and the Patterson's had a need for the element of surprise, but whether or not they went too far is a matter of opinion.

I'm more than happy for them in that it was a big moment for their sons, but when will the madness end where prospects clamor for the ultimate spotlight?

Like the vast majority of prospects, Barnes changed by his senior season, just like Boynton and Monroe.

Barnes had nothing but good things to say about Krzyzewski up until about three months ago when his Mom took complete control of the media and decided Barnes would speak to who they felt were the best sound pieces for their goals.

The same kid that would come up to me after his AAU games to ask about his stats to send to his mom, dissed me in the end.  Never mind, how good I made him look and that he once treated me as if I was a step above the rest of the media.

No sour grapes there, for I never bugged Barnes at home but one time.  The last time I called, I was told he would return my call by his mom Shirley and that it would be that night, but the call never came.

Look, Barnes is a good kid as is his family, but they didn't do Duke any favors and something tells me there is already some of that UNC blue crawling up their spines that will in time bring out the intensity of the rivalry.

The thing is that Duke recruited Barnes hard and did just about everything they could which makes this a tough pill to swallow.  But Roy worked some magic in the end and that's the bottom line.

I am not sure if Duke let up a bit in the end or anything else for that matter.  Duke is not about to share details with anyone, especially those who will run with it on the Internet.

It should also be noted that the Duke staff just wants to move on and Barnes is now history in their book.  But you can bet that the Duke family is distraught and there is a definite sense of betrayal.

My understanding is that Barnes decision caught many Duke players off guard, but there did seem to be a sense of trouble about a week ahead of his decision.

Incoming Duke freshman Kyrie Irving even made a veiled statement via twitter that in hindsight showed the writing on the wall.

Duke has clammed up of late and it should make sense to us all for there is a basketball game tonight as the season is underway.  Duke and their fans can get over this and it will likely make the return to the top sweeter.

Still, I get it in that this was the most devastating loss yet for Barnes to the neighbors down the road.

A reality check is in order, for you will hear about Barnes a lot this season on telecasts and you will have him rammed down your throat in the off season and even more-so when he sets foot in the Dean Dome.  It will not be fun but it is best to prepare for it, deal with it and accept what we can't control.

This is also a test of Duke fans mettle for many of you started pulling for Duke when they were on top of the world.  Some of us went through two 10-16 seasons, a coach bringing us back to the final four and then leaving and watching Krzyzewski build Duke into what it is today.

A visit in history shows that Krzyzewski won with lesser talent via rankings in his first several years.  And it took a while before he started to get marquee recruits.

Duke fans have been through a great cycle and now we are in a somewhat down cycle only with concerns to Carolina.  Take them away and Duke is just a top ten team ... how disgusting we have to live with that, huh?

Give it time and this to will flip.  Barnes would have flipped the balance of power had he chosen Duke, but he instead widened the gap only in that Duke needs athletic wings.

Duke will work out and remember that maybe, just maybe, the fans need to understand what it is like to be hungry again.

It's never been Duke's birthright to get a championship every year or a prospect they desire.  But when you compare Duke to the rest of the country's programs, they are still elite in every way.

As for Barnes, facts are still being sifted through and by the time I get the whole picture none of us will care.  Quite simply, it is time for all of us to move on and enjoy the season in the here and now.

Final word - The Duke staff worked their butts off recruiting Barnes and they gave it their best effort.  That's all they could do.[/private]

Behind the scenes – Coach K teaches the tricks of the trade and talks of his team

K teaching Lance Thomas - BDNP
K teaching Lance Thomas - BDNP

Durham, N.C. - Coaches from all around the region and some from afar flocked to Durham to participate in Coach Mike Krzyzewski's Annual Coaching Clinic this past weekend.  It's an awesome event where participants learn X's and O's from the entire Duke staff all while seeing the 2009-2010 Blue Devils in two practices.

The clinic offers a great opportunity for a coach or novice to understand more about teaching the game of basketball all while getting a behind the scenes look at the program.  BDN was once again on hand and I was able to learn how to attack a zone which will help me in coaching this season.  But, we were also able to get K's comments on his team, individual players and his basic philosophy.  That said, here are several interesting tidbits gleaned during the event -

K on Miles Plumlee - Coach said that Miles was really starting to emerge as a player and that when he is relentless he's at his best.  "We are working with Miles on defining his role," said Krzyzewski.  He mentioned that Miles had become bigger and stronger in the off season and commented on how he wants to do well.  K used the word "formative," in describing Miles, saying that he talks with him about [private]  his mistakes and that Miles learns from that.  It was clear that Miles is still a work in progress but that he will be a vital cog in Duke's attack this season.  K wants him to do certain things well in an effort to lay out where he is needed from a team perspective.  Also said Miles is a bit fragile with his confidence so he didn't yell at him, but would other players.

K on Lance Thomas - He's developed a dependable shot from 15 feet.  Mentioned again, that Lance would play a lot of on ball defense on the other teams guards and that Nolan would do the same.

K on Ryan Kelly - Stated that Kelly has great basketball skills but there were limitations in what he could do at this level until he gains more strength.  K said he could play ten minutes a game sometime, but what he didn't say was that Kelly will probably get an average of 5 or 6 minutes a game at this time.

ks acK on Kyle Singler - K talked extensively of Singler changing his body and position.  While Kyle has lost some weight to play more on the outside, he's is the best shape of his life.  ""He's a pro - a lottery pick whenever he comes out.  "He's a starter in the NBA," said K.  Singler has arranged a class schedule which allows him to better dedicate himself to basketball.  Singler called and went over to K's house one time and showed interest in leadership.  In fact Singler joined Scheyer for a class at Duke where a Lt.Colonel teaches a class on leadership. Best quote - "Kyle has the ego to be a very good player, but he'll need even more of an ego to be a great player."  Also said Kyle was a quiet kid when he came to Duke so he handled him differently.  Mentioned that he had a speech impediment growing up.

K mentioned that he had been recruiting hard - K said that he was on the road a whole lot during the recruiting window and that it had been grueling at times.

K on Mason Plumlee - "He's a special player -- very talented.  Today was his best practice," stated K.

Above the rim - We haven't looked to go down low for three years and now we have guys who play above the rim," said Coach K in reference to the Plumlee brothers.

Pleased with the offense - K said that he expected this years team to average a lot of points and lauded his teams offensive play so far this season. "This past week was a good one for us."

lt masonNext play - K is looking forward to Tuesday's game with Findley and warned his team that they would be much tougher than Pfeiffer.  Mentioned they were national champs in their division and that they we but he 38-0.  Duke has today [Sunday] off and will return to court on Monday for their 16th practice of the season.

K on AD  - "He's got a good shot.   He's yet to play for a team with structure and he has a lot to learn where he wasn't taught the skills that are needed at this level."

K on Zoubek - "He had his best week of practice this past week."

K's practice emphasis - K emphasized communication skills, meaning getting players to talk and react.  Duke worked on attacking the zone defense and the usual drills such as weaves, game situations, 4 on 4 and 5 on 5 game situations.

Players chose teams and K used that as a message- Singler and Scheyer picked teams for a scrimmage and K later used that as stating to the players, "Wherever you were picked is how your teammates feel about you at this point."

K celebrates with players differently - K treats each player differently in an effort to bring out the best results.  IOW, some kids take criticism differently than others.  The same goes for when he pats them on the back.

Ending K quote -"I'm going to be here for awhile.  I'm healthy and fresh and I'm looking forward to coaching." [/private]

CTC Post Game Audio – Nolan Smith talks of his play on and off the court

Tyler Thornton and Nolan Smith share a kodak moment.  BDN Photo
Tyler Thornton and Nolan Smith share a kodak moment. BDN Photo

DURHAM N.C. - Blue Devil Nation was on the scene during the Countdown to Craziness affair which kicked off the Duke Basketball season.  I caught up to Nolan and got his thoughts on his play including a big block and his humorous on and off court [private]  antics.

Just press play ^ [/private]

2011 prospect Austin Rivers talks upcoming visits and more

2011 prospect Austin Rivers - BDN Photo
2011 prospect Austin Rivers - BDN Photo

Austin Rivers, a nearly 6’5” guard from Winter Park, Florida, was a basketball prodigy who has been on the radar of scouts since he was in middle school. The fact that his father is Glenn “Doc” Rivers, a thirteen year NBA veteran and current head coach of the Boston Celtics, and his older brother Jeremiah was a high-major player at Georgetown and currently is at Indiana only heightened his notoriety. Austin committed to the then twice-defending National Champion University of Florida Gators in the July immediately following his freshman season at Winter Park High School.

This past summer, Rivers was teamed up briefly with Gatorade Player of the Year, Brandon Knight, on the AAU circuit for Each One Teach One (FL). He was also one of the top performers throughout the live period at the LeBron James Skills Academy, the Peach Jam, and the AAU Nationals, where he was closely observed by Duke‘s Mike Krzyzewski. Recently, the industrious and confident young man made headlines by telling the Sporting News that he was going to visit several schools. Before the Boost Mobile Elite 24 game in New York, Austin Rivers sat down with Blue Devil Nation to discuss a wide variety of topics, including what he is looking for on his upcoming visits, his business-like approach to basketball, why he initially chose Florida, his experience with Brandon Knight, and why he’d like the current coach of the Celtics to be known as Austin Rivers’ dad.

There was that recent piece in the Sporting News. The noteworthy part was that it mentioned that you were going to visit other schools out of respect for your father. Can you expound on your decision and did your mother recommend that as well?

Not really. It was mostly me and my father. You know after seeing what happened to my brother…You know he went to college and had a tough time, you know, getting comfortable. You know seeing that he made the wrong choice by going to Georgetown.

I was going to ask you about Jeremiah in a moment.

Yeah, you know, just out of respect for my dad, I wanted to go look at, you know, a couple of other programs. You know just in case something happens. You never know with Coach Donovan. With the caliber of coach he is, he may get an offer. You never know. I just wanted to go out of respect..

Well, you also committed at a relatively young age.

Yeah, exactly, I committed at a really young age just because…

Were you feeling a lot of pressure at the time?

Yeah, well, at the age...I mean, when I got offered, you know Florida was just coming off of two national championships.

Right, right, there was probably also some hometown pressure.

Yeah, exactly, the hometown school so, you know, everybody was like “Whoa, Florida.” So, at the time, you know, I was like why wouldn’t I go there? They have everything right. So, you know, that was why I chose to go there and, you know, I still love it. I’m still as committed as I was when I first committed. It’s just that I want to look at other schools, in case anything ever happened.

Sure, have you finalized a list of schools that you intend on visiting yet?

Yeah, I’m going to try to go up to look at Duke [This preview is a small sample of  in depth interview] [private] and then Carolina. Then I’ll look at UConn and UCLA.

Do you know of any definitive dates when you’ll be visiting?

Not yet, I’m trying to get it done before school starts. Maybe, actually, school starts on Monday so..

Wow, school starts on the Wednesday after Labor Day in New York

Wow, do they really? Yeah, well, in the next couple of weeks, I’m going to try to, well, before it gets busy with high school, I’m going to try to go over to Duke.

Will your whole family be making the trip?

No, it’ll probably just be me, my dad, and my coach. And then I’ll try to knock out Carolina at the same time. And then later try to visit the other ones. I can visit UConn when I go up to visit my dad in Boston.

What insights are you looking to gain from the visits? The article wasn’t very specific, as to what you were looking for?

(pauses) I just want to see what other schools have to offer, you know.  I want to see what makes Florida the school for me. You know there are many good reasons for Florida, but you know I would like to see what are some good reasons for the other schools. What makes UConn have all of these great players come out of there every year and the same thing for Duke? And why do they have that rep? You know that’s why I want to go see them.

Do you feel you were, in a sense, robbed of that opportunity to look around by committing at such a young age?

Yeah

To an extent ..

Exactly right. You know I like Florida because, in the past six years, I think Florida has won the most NCAA Championships and I don’t think people realize that. I think when I get there, we could have a really good program, where we could start maybe a dynasty or a rep that Duke and them have.

Having watched your brother go through the process at Georgetown and Indiana , what have you learned and what has Jeremiah recommended to you in terms of going through the process as well as preparing for college basketball?

To be smart and..

Are you guys very close, by the way?

We’re definitely close. We’re real close. If he’s in town, we go everywhere together. We go everywhere. He’s recommended to me to just stay focused. Stay focused because you’re not going to come in and just own the program. You know it’s very rare.

Well, that touches on another point. I think it can be really helpful to younger brothers to have a close relative, who has been through the experience and can pass along the potential pitfalls and can help them learn from their mistakes or challenges. I thought Kevin Love, who had a great freshman season, did a good job of expressing the difficulties and challenges of taking the next steps to both the college level and the pro level.

You know, exactly, exactly. You’ve just got to go in with the right mindset.

I mean I know you’re dominating high school kids, but there’s a big step between that and playing against the best players in college basketball on a routine basis.

Yeah, it’s a huge step. And then I know there’s a big step between college and the NBA.

Sure.

College is a whole different thing. Those are grown men out there as well. So, you know, going to college is going to be a huge step, but you know I’ll work hard and I think I have enough determination to where I think I can change a program.

Okay, on the court, what have been the things that your father has recommended you work on most? Is he generally supportive or critical?

Just help-side defense...score on that. Just getting better on defense and my awareness. Oh, and my strength.

I was going to ask you about that next because, in an interview you did fifteen months ago, you said that your jump shot was your biggest strength and your physical strength was your biggest weakness. Do you still feel that to be the case?

Yeah, I do and I’ve actually gotten a lot stronger

Well, then I guess how have you addressed that?

Yeah, I’ve definitely gotten stronger. I’ve added to my strength and starting in a few weeks, well, that’s when I’m going to start lifting weights heavy. I’m probably going to be..

Do you have good facilities at the school or do you work out at home?

Yeah, yeah, we have good facilities there, but I go elsewhere.

You work out at a private gym?

Yeah, I work out at a gym not at my house. I have a guy that I lift with and I’m hoping that it’ll help me add maybe ten to fifteen pounds.

What do you weigh now?

About 190. So I’m hoping to get up to 200 or maybe 210.

How tall are you now, 6’4” or 6’5?”

Yeah, like 6’4 ½,” I’m hoping to get up to 210.

Okay, before his injury, you teamed up with Brandon Knight. Can you talk about that experience and give a short scouting report on him?

It was great, man. I think when me and Brandon were on the same team I thought we were the best team in the country. You know he was hurt.

That’s a heck of a backcourt to go to work against.

Yeah, it was. You know he was hurt for most of the AAU season. So the load was really heavy on me and we ended up losing the championship, but, when it was me and him, we really, really could beat everybody.

Now, would you play mostly off guard with him or vice versa?

Oh, when I would get the rebound, he would go. When he would get the rebound, I would go.

Okay.

Yeah, we would just switch back an forth and both be combo guards. When he was a shooting guard, I was the point. When he was the point, I was the shooting guard.

You’re both guards. Let the other team worry about matching up.

Exactly, so you know, we were very tough to guard.

Can you give a little scouting report on him?

Brandon is probably the quietest dude you will ever meet. That’s Brandon. He will not tell you where he will go.

BDN: (laughing)

AR: I’ve asked him. My dad’s asked him. He will not tell you where he is going. I think he likes Florida, but then I hear he likes Kentucky. So, you know, one day you this and the next day you hear that.

Are you excited about playing him next February on ESPN?

Yeah, that’s going to be fun. I can’t wait.

Have you played a lot on television? Oh, yeah, the AAU Nationals, etc.

Yeah, I’ve played on ESPN maybe four times and then, well, down in Florida all of my games are on TV.

Really?

Yeah, it’s Bright House.

Does the Sun Network pick it up or another regional carrier?

Yeah, it’s like a regional network, but the game should be fun.

Getting back to an earlier point, what position do you view yourself as?

I would say a scoring point guard.

A scoring point guard? I watched you a lot at the LeBron James..

Yeah, you know, at the LeBron James, we had little Andre with us so I could only play the off guard.

Yeah, he was, what, maybe 5’7?”

Yeah, exactly, so I kind of had to give up the ball. For my high school this year, I’m going to try to get a lot more point guard in. Going into college, I’m going to be a scoring point guard, but I’m also going to try to average six, like, six assists a game.

Do you feel more comfortable playing off the ball or with it?

I like with the ball. I’m not a dude that tries to come off of screens or anything like that.

Because at the Nike event they had you playing almost exclusively off the ball so I didn’t know if you had changed your game or were looking to get more time in at shooting guard or even transition..

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the problem was that there were so many star players that I can just get in wherever I fit in. It worked out for me though I feel.

Yeah, it absolutely did.

Thanks, but, yeah, I prefer being on the ball.

Are there any players that you try to model your game after?

Well, the player that I’d really like to play like is Brandon Roy.

Brandon Roy? Now are you expected to grow a lot taller?

Yeah, I should be about 6’5” or 6’6.” I think 6’6” so I’ll be a big guard. You know kind of like Brandon Roy.

That’s an interesting one. I don’t think anyone has ever given me that one.

Yeah, it’s because people, well, everybody wants to say “Kobe” or maybe “LeBron,” but, you know, I like Brandon Roy and Dwayne Wade. Those are my two favorite players. Dwayne Wade gets to the rack a little bit more, while I think Brandon Roy has a nice mid-range game.

He’s an excellent shooter and smooth.

Yeah, great shooter and smooth. People underestimate him

Alright, the word that I associate with you at all of the different events where I observed was “professionalism.” I’m thinking particularly at the LeBron James camp. When some kids were joking around or not really paying attention, you approached the drills and games with a professional, really business like manner or approach. Is that a mindset that you learned over time or is it more of a natural characteristic for you?

Yeah, exactly, I’m not joking around.

Kids are always going to joke around, but I mean, at the end of the day, this is a business. I thought you really took that approach in the drills and throughout.

Exactly, I’m trying to show everyone that I’m the best one out here. It’s a business. I don’t play games. I play to have fun, but, at the same time, I play to show everybody that I am the best guard out here. I want people to say Austin Rivers. I mean I want people to say that’s Austin Rivers’ dad instead of Doc Rivers’ son.

Yeah, I was wondering if you felt that way.

Yeah, exactly. That’s my view on that.

What was it like for you at the LeBron working with Kevin Eastman, who’s one of your dad’s assistants?

Oh, he was great. People think I work with him a lot, but I really don’t. So, when I get a chance to, it was awesome.

Is there any chance that you reclassify to the 2010 class?

No, no.

I was trying to do the math, but I didn’t have your birth date. Were you were born when your dad was on the Knicks or the Spurs?

Oh, um, I think the Spurs.

Just out of curiosity, does it ever frustrate you or your mother that people always want to know or ask you about your father, when she is essentially helping to raise you in the eight plus months a year that he’s in Boston?

No, I mean she’s the most hardest working mom I’ve ever met.

I read that in a recent interview.

She had four kids. Four kids that all play ball. She does everything for us and takes us everywhere. Not to mention we adopted a kid. Not to mention that my best friend lives with me. We have like eight kids in our house and she takes care of everybody. She definitely deserves more credit.

You made it to the state semifinals against Olympia Fields this past season. What did you learn from the experience and how good do you expect your team to be this upcoming season?

Not to take anything for granted, man. You never know how many opportunities that you are going to have. I have two more opportunities and time flies. I think my team is too good and I’m too good not to win a state championship. (Points around gym) Everybody here is talking about winning a state championship and next year I want to come back here and talk about winning the states.

What is it like growing up in Winter Park?

It’s nice

It’s a very unique place, by Floridian standards.

Yeah, exactly, it’s very low-key and a really nice place.

Did your parents ever contemplate seriously about moving the family to the Boston area?

No, not at all.

Do you do well in school?

Yeah, I do well. I’ve got a 3.2.

Who’s the toughest player you’ve ever had to guard?

Hmm, probably Brandon Knight

Do you ever have feel the need to put your guard up with people or that people make assumptions about you, as a result of being Doc Rivers’ son?

Yeah, definitely.

Alright, well, thanks, Austin. I hope you find what you’re looking for.

No problem, thanks a lot, man. [/private]

Breaking News – Coach K calls and offers 2011 prospect Marshall Plumlee

Marshall Plumlee - copyright BDN Photo
Marshall Plumlee - copyright BDN Photo

Duke already has two Plumlees on the roster but if they have it their way, a third might be on the way.  Duke officially offered Marshall Plumlee [6-11, 200 Christ School, Arden, N.C.] a scholarship to play his basketball at Duke University last evening.

"We're very happy for Marshall," said his Dad, Perky Plumlee who went on to say, "It's certainly something he'll give consideration to and as it was with my other boys, it's an honor to be recruited by Duke."

Coach Krzyzewski made the call with the offer on Monday evening, shortly after having seen Marshall during the Elite Camp held this past weekend.  Plumlee has a bevy of offers from other schools including Indiana, LSU, Notre Dame, N.C. State and many others.

We will discuss more on this breaking news on the BDN Premium message boards.  Duke has now offered to prospect in a span of 24 hours, the first being 2012's J.P. Tokoto.  We will have an interview up later.  Join BDN Premium now for information ahead of the curve.