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Our final word on the “B” word …

Kyrie Irving wanted to play with Barnes, but he will now prepare to face him as a rival.  For Duke fans, it's time to move on and show love to the players that want to play in Durham.
Kyrie Irving wanted to play with Barnes, but he will now prepare to face him as a rival. For Duke fans, it's time to move on and show love to the players that want to play in Durham.

When I first started to write of the aftermath of Barnes recruitment, I realized that in order to get a better picture that it would take a little time. So, I let this sit on the cutting room floor for a few days.  Of course, members wanted answers right away and nobody could give them what few involved in the situation wanted to talk about.

As time has gone on and I have yet to release what we'll term BDN's final word on Barnes, I realized that despite all of my efforts there was no real way to make sense of the disappointment.  Still, I will give it a try in an effort to appease those with questions.

First off all, lets be real in that had Harrison Barnes chose Duke, we would have had no problem with his recruitment.  Many of you are seeking answers but nobody can give you a complete scenario as to how things went down.

I have been saying for a year now that [private] I do not like it when Duke is considered the leader for a recruit, especially early on.  Duke has missed on Barnes, Boynton and Monroe after being considered the leader and there are others as well.

I personally do not think prospects like being linked to a certain school for a long period of time, for all the questions and all the attacks surely come.  Yes, we are talking negative recruiting and there is a lot of that going on.  But that's a story for another day for it was far from the sole reason Duke lost Barnes to Carolina.

I say lost Barnes, for I really thought they had established themselves the leader and there was never any over the top bad vibes from Barnes throughout the process.  You can also make a case in that Roy Williams closed hard and seemingly made all the right moves.

Roy camped out in Iowa towards the end and he had his team working behind the scenes at breakneck speed in a calculated effort to get Barnes.  The official visit to UNC was a grand slam, but why?

Well, as it turns out Barnes mom, Shirley is a big UNC fan and she was completely blown away on the visit, meeting Michael Jordan and being schmoozed by players she grew up rooting for is tough to overcome  Nobody realized just how deep this went until it was too late to do anything about it.

Barnes is a mommas boy, so he would naturally be swayed by his mom and sister's emotion.  It is also known that the Barnes family felt more at home at UNC than they did Duke for whatever reason.

Yes, Barnes was urged to call certain ex Duke players and yes, kids on their team that were recruited by Duke [Leslie McDonald] and those who wanted to be for exposure [Kendall Marshall] played roles.

It's many kids dreams to take it down to the wire with the biggest names clamoring for them as they announce to a national audience.  Duke was not about to fall prey to Marshall whose Dad wanted DU to offer for they knew where he would end up all along.

Still, there is no secret that prospects seemingly have no problem with slipping a nod and wink to one coach while stringing along others, recruiting budgets and emotions be damned.

Barnes did string Duke along and he made them feel as if there was a legitimate shot right up until his announcement.  For Duke fans, it did seem like a slap in the face with Roy slipping in after Duke's in home and no sign of serious remorse for the jilted ones.

Once again, we all had to sit on pins and needles while Barnes gave what seemed like an acceptance speech at the Academy Awards before going over and pulling up Skype on his computer in a most clunky way.

When Roy's face popped up, the mystery was officially over but rest assured it had been over and this "different way of announcing," had been set up well before the day of the event.

But Duke has been here before.  Patrick Patterson strung Duke along yet in the end it was clear Duke was not in the top two.  Patterson's mom jumped to the mike and shouted, "We shocked the world, we shocked the world."

I suppose that is okay from the prospect's standpoint, but wasting the recruiting budgets of schools for your own needs is wrong in my book.

Yes, Mrs. Patterson and Patrick shocked the world, but why be so proud of that?  Both the Barnes and the Patterson's had a need for the element of surprise, but whether or not they went too far is a matter of opinion.

I'm more than happy for them in that it was a big moment for their sons, but when will the madness end where prospects clamor for the ultimate spotlight?

Like the vast majority of prospects, Barnes changed by his senior season, just like Boynton and Monroe.

Barnes had nothing but good things to say about Krzyzewski up until about three months ago when his Mom took complete control of the media and decided Barnes would speak to who they felt were the best sound pieces for their goals.

The same kid that would come up to me after his AAU games to ask about his stats to send to his mom, dissed me in the end.  Never mind, how good I made him look and that he once treated me as if I was a step above the rest of the media.

No sour grapes there, for I never bugged Barnes at home but one time.  The last time I called, I was told he would return my call by his mom Shirley and that it would be that night, but the call never came.

Look, Barnes is a good kid as is his family, but they didn't do Duke any favors and something tells me there is already some of that UNC blue crawling up their spines that will in time bring out the intensity of the rivalry.

The thing is that Duke recruited Barnes hard and did just about everything they could which makes this a tough pill to swallow.  But Roy worked some magic in the end and that's the bottom line.

I am not sure if Duke let up a bit in the end or anything else for that matter.  Duke is not about to share details with anyone, especially those who will run with it on the Internet.

It should also be noted that the Duke staff just wants to move on and Barnes is now history in their book.  But you can bet that the Duke family is distraught and there is a definite sense of betrayal.

My understanding is that Barnes decision caught many Duke players off guard, but there did seem to be a sense of trouble about a week ahead of his decision.

Incoming Duke freshman Kyrie Irving even made a veiled statement via twitter that in hindsight showed the writing on the wall.

Duke has clammed up of late and it should make sense to us all for there is a basketball game tonight as the season is underway.  Duke and their fans can get over this and it will likely make the return to the top sweeter.

Still, I get it in that this was the most devastating loss yet for Barnes to the neighbors down the road.

A reality check is in order, for you will hear about Barnes a lot this season on telecasts and you will have him rammed down your throat in the off season and even more-so when he sets foot in the Dean Dome.  It will not be fun but it is best to prepare for it, deal with it and accept what we can't control.

This is also a test of Duke fans mettle for many of you started pulling for Duke when they were on top of the world.  Some of us went through two 10-16 seasons, a coach bringing us back to the final four and then leaving and watching Krzyzewski build Duke into what it is today.

A visit in history shows that Krzyzewski won with lesser talent via rankings in his first several years.  And it took a while before he started to get marquee recruits.

Duke fans have been through a great cycle and now we are in a somewhat down cycle only with concerns to Carolina.  Take them away and Duke is just a top ten team ... how disgusting we have to live with that, huh?

Give it time and this to will flip.  Barnes would have flipped the balance of power had he chosen Duke, but he instead widened the gap only in that Duke needs athletic wings.

Duke will work out and remember that maybe, just maybe, the fans need to understand what it is like to be hungry again.

It's never been Duke's birthright to get a championship every year or a prospect they desire.  But when you compare Duke to the rest of the country's programs, they are still elite in every way.

As for Barnes, facts are still being sifted through and by the time I get the whole picture none of us will care.  Quite simply, it is time for all of us to move on and enjoy the season in the here and now.

Final word - The Duke staff worked their butts off recruiting Barnes and they gave it their best effort.  That's all they could do.[/private]

Tyler Thorton signs his letter of intent to attend Duke University

Tyler Thornton puts pen to paper to officially become a future Blue Devil - Photo courtesy of Real Thornton pictured left.
Tyler Thornton puts pen to paper to officially become a future Blue Devil - Photo courtesy of Real Thornton pictured left.

Tyler Thornton signed his letter of intent to attend Duke University.  Thornton joins Josh Hairston and Kyrie Irving in the class of 2010 and the trio could be joined by Harrison Barnes in just a few hours.  Stay tuned to Blue Devil Nation as we'll take a further look at the future Blue Devils in the coming week.

Thornton [6-2,180] enters his senior year at Gonzaga in Washington, D.C. where he hopes to help lead his team to the title.

Thornton is happy to be a Blue Devil
Thornton is happy to be a Blue Devil

Anxiously awaiting Harrison Barnes decision

Harrison Barnes is set to make his collegiate choice on Friday - BDN Photo
Harrison Barnes is set to make his collegiate choice on Friday - BDN Photo

Durham, N.C. - Can you remember the last time that the potential signing of a prospect overshadowed the start of the regular season, not to mention home opener for Duke Basketball?  Quit searching, for it has never happened, but one must keep in mind that this is Harrison Barnes and he's become a household name not only in the Triangle [Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill], but in the nation.

Barnes of course is the consensus top rated player in the Class of 2010 and his addition can really sway the balance of power on the college basketball landscape.  Come 4:20 eastern standard time tomorrow afternoon, when Barnes makes his destination known; the staff and fan base of one school is going to be riding on cloud nine while the five contenders will go into hiding until the initial shock is over.

The suspense is already turning various school sites message boards into a cesspool of rumors and propaganda.  Yet many fans hang on to everything they hear trying to fit together pieces of supposed inside information to give them an early answer.  Never mind, that these claims are coming from anonymous posters, it doesn't seem to matter in the frenzied world of recruitniks [a reference to recruiting fanatics].

It looks as if Barnes will actually announce his decision rather than some "need of the scoop" media types blowing his day in the sun.  You can rest assured that media types are making calls to all channels in an effort to get said scoop as I type and they'll stop at nothing, including trying to pick the losing coaches.

Barnes in action - copyright BDN Photo
Barnes in action - copyright BDN Photo

If my sources are true, Barnes will not call or contact any of the opposing coaches with concerns to his decision, save to thank them for recruiting him.  IOW, Barnes will make the coaches wait as well, or will he?

Barnes day in the sun will continue after his decision in that this recruiting battle  is destined to be talked about by many.  I mean, can you hear Dick Vitale saying, "The amazing Harrison Barnes signed with the ...... baby!  Watch out, he's the second coming ..."

Okay, it may not go quite like that, but you get the picture in that Harrison Barnes is the most hyped prospect since LeBron James skipped college to go straight to the pro's.

Despite the comparisons with James with concern to hype, Barnes is a kid who is big on education and he seems to be a kid that easily fits in.  What I am trying to say is that Barnes could well stay in college more than just one season.

Duke started recruiting Barnes in the summer of 2008 and they had an offer out there early, but Kansas was the first school other than hometown Iowa State to get involved in his recruiting.  UCLA wasn't far behind, nor was Oklahoma.   UNC got in late but there are many indications that they made up a lot of ground in a short time.

Depending on who you trust, the Barnes spin mill has him going to four schools on his list of six.  UCLA and Oklahoma have become the dark horses, while Iowa State is hanging out of respect, a Barnes trait.

North Carolina fans and their players seem confident that Barnes is theres and that Michael Jordan served as a trump card.  Kansas is proported to be the choice with concern to location and allowing the family to stay in the area.

Duke?  Well, I cannot speak for the assumed rumors and assumptions above, but I can tell you how Duke's recruitment of Barnes has gone from my vantage.

The Blue Devils had more visits than any other school save Kansas. Coach Kryzewski has been the front and center lead man for Barnes.  It is believed that the two have formed a sound relationship and word is that he gets along with the players both current and coming.

Duke has been up front with Barnes throughout the process and they have made no secret he was their target from day one.  It's also obvious that Duke fans are hanging on the result of this one for they too are deeply involved with the outcome.

All of the schools offer a great opportunity for Barnes, but it isn't hard to see that the Devils have a plan and that Barnes is a vital part of their future plans.

In closing may I suggest you brace yourselves for even more late breaking rumors.  At Blue Devil Nation, we do not have public message boards, instead opting for a members only forum.  But even there, we have multiple Barnes  threads with as many as 30,000 views.

Make no mistake, fans are hanging by a thread and anxiously awaiting Barnes decision.

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Harrison Barnes has been consistent throughout the recruiting process

The Duke staff wants to work with Harrison Barnes - BDN Photo
The Duke staff wants to work with Harrison Barnes - BDN Photo

My original plan was to run all of the interviews we have done with Harrison Barnes for Blue Devil Nation Premium [subscription service] on our free board this week.  After reading Barnes comments from eight different interviews, we decided to just break it down for you in that his answers have been incredibly consistent.

Despite the fact that names like Duke, Kansas, Oklahoma and UNC are some of college hoops best and that they are all in the running for Barnes services, the young man did not grow up watching college basketball.  He was instead reared on NBA basketball and that is where he learned a lot of his skills.

That means he didn't really understand the Duke-UNC rivalry unti this past year and that places like the Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium were all new to him.

BDN covered Barnes during seven AAU events and we personally saw the coveted prosepect play in 24 or more games since the first time we saw him.  That first time was during the NBAPA Top 100 Camp in 2008.  Up until that time Barnes had played with All Iowa Attack and they quite simply did not attend the major events.

That led Barnes to start playing with Howard Pulley [Minnesota] and that allowed the media types and scouts to see what all the hype was about.  Howard Pulley is in a rebulding mode, so Barnes would pretty much carry the load, but he is more than willing to do that anytime, any place, any where.

BDN has learned and seen firsthand that Barnes will not back down from a challenge and that his confidence is rarely shaken.  Even when tired Barnes leaves every ounce of energy on the court no matter what the situation.  There were a couple of occasions where Barnes would handle the ball during crunch time during this past seasons NBAPA Top 100 Camp.

Each time the best prospects in the land would clear out for him and each time Barnes finished the deal against talented competition.  But Barnes is more than just a scorer.  He is always around the ball and plays to his teammates as much as possible.  Observers would have seen more of this had Barnes played with better teammates on the AAU circuit.

Anyway, back to the interviews and Barnes consistency for it could well be telling come Friday.  Barnes has maintained since day one that he would not make a decision until he had made all of his visits.  Guess what?  He took all of them.  You see, Barnes is methodical in everything he does.

Unlike some kids his age, Barnes seems to be an old soul in that his demeanor is always professional.  During all of my views on and off the court, Barnes is always on his best behavior and you never see him, cutting up in an animated way.  He is aware of his surroundings and seems tuned in to what he wants.

When sorting through the numerous interview questions it became clear that Barnes has stuck to his word in most every way.  He's not the type of kid who'll rush into anything without disecting all of the facts from fiction and evaluating the pro's and con's. That's why he took each and every visit.

The one thing that has changed in his recruitment is that the Barnes camp decided to speak through certain media outlets where he has kept a diary.  As of a couple of months ago, Barnes would not take calls from the numerous schools sites and he refused to talk about any of the details of his visits.

I have dealt with many kids during similar processes and I can tell you that Harrison Barnes has a good poker face and anyone who claims they have penetrated that are fooling themselves.

Maybe that's why the makers of Prozac are apt to get a boom in their business come Friday, for many a fan will have been absorbed by rumors and supposed leanings that change every ten minutes on the Internet.

I mean, some depression is guaranteed, especially if Barnes chooses Duke or UNC for that rivaly is unmatched in collegiate sports.

But the bottom line is that this decision will likely stay a secret until the moment he announces.  While that may be tedious for our instant gratificatin society that wants to know it all right now, it's kind of refreshing.  I mean, when is the last time a player got his day to shine in the light at his bequest?

Blue Devil Nation will have more on Barnes in the coming hours, so stay tuned.  For more on Barnes, join Blue Devil Nation Premium and discuss the matter on the fastest growing premium message board around.  Once a member you can discuss the latest happenings with knowlegable fans and insiders.

Marshall Plumlee – “There are many attractive aspects when thinking of playing with my brothers at Duke”

Marshall Plumee talks recruiting and more in this latest BDN Premoum offering
Marshall Plumlee talks recruiting and more in this latest BDN Premium offering

Forging your own identity as a basketball player is a tough task, but that's especially true if you have two older brothers who already play for one of the elite programs in college basketball.

But if anyone is up to he task it's Marshall Plumlee, a near seven foot front court player that is going into his junior season at Christ School in Arden North Carolina.

The name Plumlee is more than just a little familiar to Duke fans for Marshall's older brothers Miles and Mason both play for and currently start at Duke.

There are definitely some similarities which go beyond all three sons initials being the same.  For that matter, those initials apply to their Father as well, Millard Plumlee who goes by "Perky."

The biggest similarity which jumps out to me is a good work ethic,  When I was planning a story on Marshall, I called his Dad to arrange a chat a few weeks back.  In the background one could hear the squeaking of sneakers, which later turned into the sound of a bouncing ball followed by the the whoosh of a stationary bike.

Perky was working out with his son on a regimen he's been through more than a few times.  When a lot of kids Marshall's age were outside kicking about, Plumlee 3 was hard at work in the gym to get better.

The first time I saw Marshall was when I was covering Christ School in the North Carolina State Championship game just after Mason had committed to Duke.

Marshall was long and lean, but skinny and still growing into his body.  Still, when Marshall opened up he was already running the court like a gazelle, making it down in half the strides of the average player.

A year later I saw Marshall during Dave Telep's camp which brings in the states best players annually.  His improvement amazed me for he had developed a spin move, a baby hook and was active and aggressive.

Now that Marshall is growing into his body, his game is coming together.  Still, one can expect Marshall to be Marshall, meaning he'll forge his own identity.

BDN caught up with Marshall [private]where we discussed the coming season, his brothers, the recruiting process and his thoughts on a recent Duke visit.

"It was great, it couldn't have gone any better.  I got a chance to see my brothers and my family came down from Indiana.  So, it was great," said Plumee when asked of his visit to Durham.

Plumlee continued, "It looks like my brothers are really enjoying themselves.  I got to see them practice a lot which was a lot of fun for me."

That led me to ask Marshall if his brothers playing in Durham was a positive for Duke and he replied, "Yeah, it definitely comes into the equation.  There are many attractive aspects for me going and playing with my brothers.  I'll continue to go over my options  this year, but I definitely think playing with my brothers is a positive for Duke.  I really enjoy being with them because we push to make each other better."

But other schools are in the mix for the next Plumlee.  'Right now I have offers from Notre Dame, IU [Indiana], Minnesota, N.C. State, Virginia, Ohio State, Purdue, Florida, Northwestern and Duke."

And Duke isn't the only school chasing the youngest Plumlee, "I'd say at this point I'm trying to narrow down a list of schools.  There are a few that standout in my mind but at this point I'm kind of playing it close to the chest or at least until I release an official statement that I have narrowed my list."

Plumlee has now turned his attention towards his school work and the coming basketball season for Christ School where they start practice on November 12th.

"My role with Christ School this season will obviously be different than in years past.  With my brothers gone I will step up and contribute more whether it's rebounds, points - wherever my team needs me."

Plumlee knows he has big shoes to fill and that his Christ School team will be defending another state title, three of those in the last four years.  "I'm just ready to put in the work.  We're a bunch of great guys willing to play together. "

You will hear more about Marshall this coming season and on the next AAU circuit and it'll be fun to watch Marshall grow as a player.

"I really like how my summer went and I am going to continue to improve.  The Duke offer motivated me as have others to come back and work hard.  I have to prove to Duke and others that I deserve the offers and that I am capable of helping or playing for them." [/private]

Harrison Barnes visits Duke a day after Irving verbals to the Blue Devils

Barnes sports a Duke T-Shirt while talking to K - this picture is copyrighted by Blue Devil Nation and cannot be used without prior permission
Barnes sports a Duke T-Shirt while talking to K - this picture is copyrighted by Blue Devil Nation and cannot be used without prior permission

This has been a huge week for Duke Basketball Recruiting and it all started when they got a commitment from Kyrie Irving on Thursday evening.  Blue Devil fans are still celebrating and holding their breath until Harrison Barnes makes his decision.  Barnes of course, is on campus this weekend.

The Barnes family arrived at 9:00 today and will spend 48 hours on campus.  In fact, today's open practice featured Barnes and his mom and sister.  BDN was on hand to check out our current players and naturally, take a look at what was going on around Barnes.  We have also included a few photo's from the event below.

Anyhow, here's what happened - [private] Barnes came into the practice after it started and got a large applause from the many fans on hand.  He initially sat with his family, but later moved to the bench area, where he unzipped his navy blue Nike sweat suit to reveal a Duke T-Shirt.

Just before that, a single yell of, "Harrison Barnes come to Duke," rang out and Barnes immediately smiled and waved in the direction of the fan.

copyright BDN Photo
copyright BDN Photo

The Barnes family seemed relaxed and likely a little tired after arriving early this morning.  Duke Assistant coaches Nate James and Chris Collins each talked with Barnes as the practice went on.

Krzyzewski talked to Barnes on three occasions, but the last twenty five minutes of the practice, he had a one on one discussion with an attentive Barnes.

At the two hour mark much of the crowd had left, but Barnes got another ovation as he left Cameron and headed for the locker room.

For the record, my understanding is that smoke and mirror or speculation articles are out there on other sites.  Barnes is not allowed to play pick up games after practice has started per NCAA guidelines.  So, be careful who you listen to.

It's also worth noting, that no web site or media outlet is allowed to contact or talk to Barnes in any way while on campus.  These rules apply for boosters too, so please be careful if you see him out and about.  A passing comment of encouragement is okay, just don't engage him in conversation.

Coaches surround Barnes - BDNP
Coaches surround Barnes - BDNP

Don't look for too much information to come out on this one other than sightings.  Duke has a full schedule for Barnes and he'll likely take in some of the football game tomorrow, which is a big one for Duke.  Hopefully the weather holds up as it did today.  With the leaves changing colors on campus, it makes for a nice backdrop. [/private]

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